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http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2206219,00.html
Mukasey, waterboarding, and Hiroshima
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2206219,00.htmlhttp://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/bstephens/?id=110010827
Optional:Waterboarding demonstration/simulation. Please be advised that the content on the following link may be disturbing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdswfKFt4wo
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First of all, this is the definition of waterboarding:
Water boarding as it is currently described involves strapping a person to an inclined board, with his feet raised and his head lowered. The interrogators bind the person's arms and legs so he can't move at all, and they cover his face. In some descriptions, the person is gagged, and some sort of cloth covers his nose and mouth; in others, his face is wrapped in cellophane. The interrogator then repeatedly pours water onto the person's face. Depending on the exact setup, the water may or may not actually get into the person's mouth and nose; but the physical experience of being underneath a wave of water seems to be secondary to the psychological experience. The person's mind believes he is drowning, and his gag reflex kicks in as if he were choking on all that water falling on his face.
And I copied and pasted that from http://people.howstuffworks.com/water-boarding.htm.
I think that that waterboarding should be banned. There is no good use in it. Torturing prisoners and such shouldn't be allowed. It kind of annoying that no matter what everyone is violent for no reason. Like come one, just make peace.
The man who droppped the atomic bomb should be held acountable for his actions because he could of said no. No one forced him to do it, even though there were pressures I's sure but people should be help accountable for their acctions. Like if someone tells another to murder and he does, the two should be held accountable for it. Even the man who was just doing his job.
Paulina
Water boarding frightened and disgusted me. I don't even know why we torture people in the first place. Even if someone won't give out crucial information, does that justify torturing them to get the details? I would like to see a law passed in Congress not just to make water boarding illegal, but to make all torturing illegal. During the Iraq War we have tortured prisoners, but when an American captive was tortured, President Bush would be outraged. Is that really fair? During war it seems like frustration and rage overpower judgment. It may seem silly and naive, but it doesn't hurt to go back to elementary school days, back to the "golden rule" and treat people how we want to be treated. Last year we read the book 1984, and we read about the torture of Winston Smith and the images that book provided made me never want to have my country be involved with such a destructive and defiling thing.
I watched the video thinking that i could handle it but honestly, that was probably the most disgusting thing i've ever seen and it literally made me feel sick. i think that it crosses some sort of line within morals and ethics and no one should ever practice waterboarding, no matter what the circumstances are. people should be ashamed to do anything like that, imagine being the interrogator who pours the water // pumps that water like in the video. things like this shouldn't be allowed. i completely agree with amanda that some sort of law should be passed by congress to eliminate waterboarding. there is no justification for it.
** that last comment was rebecca btw's
honestly watching that video was really disturbing and I don't believe that it is just for people to do that to anyone no matter what they did. I feel that torture is never a good way of getting anything out of anyone no matter what the circumstances are. Like Amanda and Rebecca and I'm sure whoever actually sees this will agree that they should stop Water boarding.
-sayumi
waterboarding is a cruel method of torture. in fact i think torture as a whole should be abolished, seeing as the methods used to torture others are mostly grotesque and in most cases, not exactly necessary. i think torture, if it is used, should only be used as a last resort, yet i strongly dont condone torture. the youtube video was shocking and disturbing and i hope waterboarding is banned.
AH! I thought this was wake boarding, not "waterboarding"
this is extremely cruel.
this torture technique seems safer than other methods of torture, yes?
I mean, besides the person thinking that he is drowning, is he still safe? without physical harm?
Like Rebecca said, no matter what the circumstance is, there is not a great enough justification for tortures such as waterboarding. As we have been reading about slavery and looking back at how peeople thought making money was a good enough justification for enslaving and whipping slaves, it's weird to know that people are going to look back at us and think "Why didn't someone stand up and make people realize that what is going on is just plain wrong and unfair!"...just like think in class. I was listening to NPR and this man was talking about how a state is getting rid of the death penalty (I think NJ but am not sure) because it takes so long for the penalty to be decided on that the court case has become corrupted. He said that his dad was given the death sentence and they later found he was not guilty. I don't think we should put someone through such a tramatizing experience and later find out that they didn't deserve it because the person is branded with the experience for life. And I can't understand how the Supreme Court or the jury can decide that something is "just bad enough" to be tortured for or how the guy that pours the water for waterboarding can sleep the next day. Life is weird, that's all I can say.
Paulina
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